“I’m not gonna to do that,” the Des Moines police officer says from the middle of the classroom.
I fix him with a cold smile.
“Listen, that’s the law for a police stop of a car.”
I say this more defensively than I’d like because, of course, in this room full of cops I’m just considered another know-it-all lawyer who sits safely in his office every day.
“I don’t care, it’s too dangerous. It’s unrealistic. I’m not going to do it,” as the cop crosses his thick arms and frowns.
. . . but eventually this class of experienced cops comes around to the safe thing and the right thing and the legal thing. But first I entertain them by jumping around at the front of the room, cursing like a madman, and then demonstrating whatever legal principle I am teaching with Barbie and Ken figures and Barbie cars and a Barbie house. I am shameless. But it works.
I loved teaching cops. Why? It’s simple. They had nonstop questions. And those questions were aggressive, real life, worried, and smart. Heck, how often can you teach a class where your students are armed? One time an officer even brought his police dog into the classroom with the assurance the dog would not bite me. The dog apparently didn’t hear our conversation and bit me just enough to make sure I was paying attention — which I did after that.
It was all a show. And I loved showtime. But both the cops and I knew the classes were essentially about character and doing justice. Serious stuff.
And regardless of the teaching and the training, there are cops out there who shouldn’t be cops. Duh, everyone who follows the news knows this. And even though there are bad apples in every profession, the consequences of a bad apple who carries a gun and has the badge of authority can be tragic. Which is why the roll of the gatekeeper is so important.
Sgt. Brenda Ingle was a gatekeeper. She was where the buck stopped when it came to new Des Moines Police recruits. She was trainer, administrator, disciplinarian, and role model for her “kids.” And she also kept me and the other teachers on task. She was a force.
And then she retired.
So now, many years later, we have coffee.
“Character is a big thing for me personally. In police work you have to have character because of the power you are given. If you don’t have character, then you have corruption.”
Yup, this is really how Brenda talks — clear, concise, and while you’re at it, you’d better be writing it down because there is always a Monday quiz.
Today Brenda smiles a genuine smile across her coffee cup. Well, a gruff, genuine smile, as she adjusts a gun belt that is no longer there.
Brenda was a street cop for Des Moines Police for many years, worked at the jail for a short stint, and then found her life calling — training new police recruits until she retired in February of 2020. She ushered over 300 police recruits into their jobs as police officers. During their training, she was demanding of students, of teachers, and of herself. She expected the best. Period.
“You are no better than other people but you have to strive to be better. You have to set the example.”
Usually, classes of 22 were culled from 500 to 600 applicants. And even after that winnowing based on past records and present skills, Brenda and her staff had to look for those recruits who were still just not suited to be police officers.
“People love firemen because they come and save them. People hate cops because we show up and someone goes to jail or someone is dead when we get there. It is a negative job and you have to be able to mentally handle that negativity.”
There was at least one person cut out of each class and sometimes two — “either they didn’t have the character or didn’t have the nerve,” says Brenda.
She remembers a student who was perfect in every category except he was terrified during the practical scenarios. “It was very hard for me to cut him because it was not who he was, but what had happened to him in his life, his trauma, that resulted in his fear.”
Brenda pauses and fiddles with her cup.
“Did I ever make mistakes?” Brenda gives a full-throated laugh.
“The expectation from the public is that you’re going to be perfect as a police officer. And when you can’t be perfect, because it’s impossible, the public is going to eat you alive.”
That’s a bit of pressure.
“If you can’t mentally manage being imperfect, and then to accept responsibility and move forward, you shouldn’t be a police officer.”
You sound as if you speak from experience.
“Listen, people aren’t here to put you on a pedestal.”
Which is why I am doing just that.
Joe
Nice. I always had good interactions with Brenda back in the day. She supervised a chunk of the female arrests among my compatriots.
The DMPD were always pretty darned respectful and professional back then. They knew us, and got to know us by name.
I understood that usually they are forced to deal with folks that are not entirely the upstanding pillars of society. I think they rather enjoyed dealing with us. Sure, it was paperwork, but we didn’t hassle them too much.
I remember one scenario where Brenda and another officer had to come in and testify against us at trial. We had been handled very well by the officers on scene, so I took the time to call Bill McCarthy and mentioned that I appreciated the professionalism of those officers who had chosen to arrest and process us.
So my arresting officer was up testifying as to what happened and took great pains to explain to the jury, that although I had been a complete gentleman, and had been entirely cooperative with the act of getting arrested? I still broke the law. It was priceless.
That was a kinder gentler time and Bill had a great crew he brought along.
And you helped train.
I love this blog entry and I love this woman whom I have never met. I worked with so many excellent cops is Ankeny as a high school counselor – men and women of character who worked in the school as liaison officers to whom kids felt safe confiding stories of fear or wrongdoing.
There are also teachers who should not be in the job, but more that are dedicated professionals trying every day to meet the needs of students on all sorts of spectrums and with all sorts of skill levels.
Here’s to people of character in every profession. Thanks, Joe for bringing us the stories of so many of them.
Kaye
Brenda was always going to get the job done quickly, accurately, and sometimes her recruits felt she was Patton-like. I just knew she was made for leadership
Joe,
It was my distinct pleasure to work with Brenda during my time at City Legal.
She’s the best and your story captures her perfectly.
Mark Godwin
Joe,
All of my interactions with police officers have been very positive, even when I received speeding tickets on two occasions. But I know many others have had different experiences and have different perceptions, so I am pleased there are officers like Sgt. Brenda Ingle to provide the training new officers need. Thanks for sharing her story!
Oh Joe thanks for giving Brenda the recognition she so deserves! What a great story. I remember the first time I saw you come into the training room for a class for Polk County and you had some kind of toy house or car. I thought now that is one awesome instructor!! So glad I got to work with you and Brenda both. Keep on writing!
Peggy
I’ve always had the deepest respect for the police. I got a small, small taste of their dangerous job many years ago as a Probation Officer.
I was grateful to have them by my side as I was “out in the field” trying to visit/take into custody an errant probationer. Community corrections was new, at least in my district, and we had little training, yet probation officers mostly were on their own out in the field.
Short story long I went to an old hotel, now converted to rentals to take into custody a probationer. As I stood in front of the probationer’s domicile and knocked loudly and announced myself, I noticed the two police officers stood back to the left and right of the door. “Hmmmmmm, I said to myself” and joined them in the relative safety of not being in front of a door that of course would not stop a bullet!
My point is the police have an incredibly tough job making split second, life and death, decisions. Are the police perfect, of course not!
My point it the police have an extremely difficult job, that certainly has gotten harder since I roamed the Quad Cities with a badge, handcuffs (no firearm/training for such)) and a great deal of a naivety.
Joe I like to think your training helped the police walk that tightrope regarding their duty and public safety!